tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post877998462073555895..comments2024-03-18T22:39:50.137-07:00Comments on A Kindle World blog: Kindle News: Misleading info re a max monthly free-3G Browsing amount on Kindle Keyboard outside the US for some UPDATEAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-40989101129030916552013-07-08T06:27:01.551-07:002013-07-08T06:27:01.551-07:00Yes she lives outside the US. Yes she lives outside the US. mobi ritzhttp://mobiritz.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-48546132227117035472013-04-16T04:26:14.692-07:002013-04-16T04:26:14.692-07:00The lady in Canada *lives* there and has received ...The lady in Canada *lives* there and has received the restrictions because she lives outside the U.S. She was The Example of when the unusual limit applies...<br /><br />If you preferred books in another language it would be best to claim that country as residence... That's an advantage. Some books are available only in some countries etc...<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-60528814869875901102013-04-15T09:49:46.349-07:002013-04-15T09:49:46.349-07:00Hi Andrys,
Thanks for your thorough reply. Seems ...Hi Andrys,<br /><br />Thanks for your thorough reply. Seems I got things backwards ha! :) which is great news. I was actually applying for residency in Brazil but stayed out of the country past the 2 year limit and lost my permanent visa (which is a pathway to permanent residency). <br /><br />I think my confusion is cleared up. <br /><br />So the lady in Canada I assume will retain unlimited experimental browsing surfing (outside of Wikipedia-Amazon Kindle store) because she is not living outside of Canada (although outside of the United States BUT she is under Canadian Amazon rules??).<br /><br />There are alot of us (some Dual Citizens..not me though) who in reality maintain residencies in 2 or more countries traveling back in forth between the countries during the year unlike many ex-patriates who stay in the foreign country for the most part. <br /><br />I assume for us frequent fliers unless we change in our Amazon profile our country of residence we can remain primary residents of the US. I wonder what else may trigger Amazon to assign you to another country such as extended residence in a foreign country using the 3G networks or making payment for kindle books with a Visa Debit Card from a Foreign bank....Just wondering here...<br /><br />Alot of gray area here which future real life experiences will only reveal I guess. One time I was with family at the Beach in Brazil using my Kindle on the Beach browsing various Blogs and articles happy as a clam consuming a virtual buffet of content way past 50 MB then one day no connection at all so I had to break down and get a TIM usb 2G wireless thingy although Kindle regained connection when we visited the next Beach south of us.<br /><br />This brings up another question. Sorry if you covered it already. If you were living outside of the US and your address with Amazon reflects that....is there any advantage? such as access to a different store or books, magazines, newspapers not offered to American Amazon members...or different prices. I've read Japan has it's own Amazon Online Kindle media store but I don't think Brazil doesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-69001311024882192642013-04-14T01:43:54.959-07:002013-04-14T01:43:54.959-07:00Anonymous (April 13, 2013 at 4:06:00 PM PDT)
Sor...Anonymous (April 13, 2013 at 4:06:00 PM PDT)<br /> Sorry I'm not clear enough in this post... Here's more to see if I can make it clearer.<br /><br /> First point... As a US citizen traveling in Brazil, the 50MB cap doesn't apply -- their own language mentions only this: "...may be limited to 50MB of browsing over 3G per month <b>for those living outside the U.S.</b>.<br /><br /> And a traveler is not living outside the U.S., just traveling. <br /> The only examples we've seen so far are of a couple of people who do live outside the U.S. "Living" normally means some kind of official residency that differs from staying in hotels or even a mansion for a length-fixed trip.<br /><br /> I'm not sure what you meany by the beginning of the post. The beginning refers to the earlier original post and states that this happened to a woman who was living in Canada and that it happened to her. One other person living outside the U.S. reported this also, on a forum I was visiting.<br /><br /> What might have confused you is that this was a follow-up post and she is confirming something asked in the previous original post on this new max of 50MB per month that she received notification about.<br /><br /> She had used up 50MB of web use and could now not use anything but the Store and Wikipedia for the remainder of THAT month.<br /><br /> But at the start of the next month she could use the other web access again until she reached her 50MB/mo. limit as someone living outside the U.S.<br /><br /> There's nothing in the post that I can find that says the 50MB would not apply to her (since Amazon gives only one instance where it does and that involves the example given -- someone outside the U.S. and the 50MB definitely applying).<br /><br /> If you changed your residency to actually move to Brazil, however: <br /><br /> First, as a U.S. resident until then, you'd see no 50MB cap restriction involved, so there's nothing to be deleted. You wouldn't see a cap on amount used until you moved there.<br /><br /> Second, you'd be living outside the U.S. if you moved there and changed your residency to Brazil, so I think the 50MB/mo. restriction would apply, but I'm no lawyer. :-)<br /><br /> I don't understand your last paragraph either. "At least it's still free in..."<br /><br /> 3G web'g is STILL free in Brazil for that Kindle whether you visit it or live there, but if you live there it would be restricted to 50MB a month but you wouldn't be restricted to Wikipedia and Amazon store until you reached your max. <br /><br /> ALL 60 countries' residents can STILL use the entire web. Anything but mainly-text web-reading is painful, so we haven't seen cries of alarm that people went over 50MB... <br /> Upshot - if you moved to Brazil, you'd still have the other access, but would have the cap of 50MB in a month... (Hope that's clearer...)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-80978909095866503302013-04-13T16:06:38.717-07:002013-04-13T16:06:38.717-07:00Hi Andrys, Thanks for the informative blog and pos...Hi Andrys, Thanks for the informative blog and post.<br /><br />I'm a bit confused...I think :)<br /><br />I have a Kindle 2 International version 3G here in the US. I understand the 50MB cap does not apply to me while in the US using the Experimental Browser for sites outside of Amazon and Wikipedia.<br /><br />BUT if I travel to Brazil which does have 3G for the Kindle the New 50MB Cap would apply.<br /><br />BUT...What if I changed my residency to actually move to Brazil (Permanent Residency) and updated my location and address on Amazon. Would that delete the 50MB Cap restriction?<br /><br />The Help page says the 50MB restriction applies to those living outside of the US. It doesn't differentiate whether they are visitors or residents or even more complicated being Dual Citizens.<br /><br />The begining of the post gave the impression that if you are an actual resident of a country outside of the US that has 3G access (as opposed to a US resident traveling abroad) the 50 MB Cap would not apply such as the Canadian Resident (Unless Canada residents are treated like US residents by Amazon as far as use of the Experimental Browser goes).<br /><br />I did use my Kindle in Brazil in 2010 quite alot even in small towns when there was a thunderstorm that knocked out other wifi hot spots temporarily. I said ..this is pretty handy for a global traveler to have free 3G surfing for life but figured the honeymoon would come to an end one day :). Well at least it's still free Wikipedia-Amazon Kindle store surfing for life Outside of the US (60 countries).<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-53697295285250432492012-07-29T13:39:16.023-07:002012-07-29T13:39:16.023-07:00Yes, disappointing. Sorry to read this but thank ...Yes, disappointing. Sorry to read this but thank you for reporting your experience. I guess the only good thing is it's almost July 31. The Canadian person reported today that she cannot use 3G for downloading books or going to Wikipedia either as those are also affected by the limit though I don't think that was intended.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-15788418219294322152012-07-29T13:31:20.554-07:002012-07-29T13:31:20.554-07:00hi I am a Peace Corps volunteer in South Africa an...hi I am a Peace Corps volunteer in South Africa and I just got the message that I have reached my data cap. I know data is very expensive here, that is why i use the kindle to browse. I usually have very poor signal anyway so I don't think the cap will be a big issue,but it was still dissapointing to see this message.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-9598331619693730522012-07-28T22:15:01.117-07:002012-07-28T22:15:01.117-07:00Hi, Edwina - Long time... Your use of the K3 3G w...Hi, Edwina - Long time... Your use of the K3 3G web-browser is very similar to how I've enjoyed it.<br /><br /> I do use google directions -- they have a text version that works very well. It actually uses larger fonts on a Kindle 2, but you can use the zoom boxes with Kindle 3 to make them more readable.<br /><br /> See <a href="http://bit.ly/kdriving" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kdriving</a> and I think you'll like the results. I have often been (as a passenger too) lost while looking for an address and it comes in really handy. I now have a Samsung S2 to do that but if I want to save battery life on the cell phone I use the Kindle.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-74245455985667978842012-07-28T22:01:10.601-07:002012-07-28T22:01:10.601-07:00I do use the K3 often when traveling to check emai...I do use the K3 often when traveling to check email (as a passenger in our car, not while driving :) ). Once in awhile, I use Google Reader, too, on the K3. <br /><br />Today, I needed to check directions given by the GPS navigation system in our car. I could not get directions with Google on the K3. What is the best site to use from the K3 for directions? <br /><br />Thank you,<br />Edwina O'TooleEOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07806526289418426619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-43396560755536684522012-07-27T19:04:27.377-07:002012-07-27T19:04:27.377-07:00Blackbeard, very funny about the millions of lines...Blackbeard, very funny about the millions of lines and 20 boxes of paper!<br /><br /> As for the free 3G on a Kindle Keyboard model -- looking it at it another way, I know many people with Kindles. I know not one person but me who has used the 3G web browsing more than once or at most, twice... I was an avid user and even then it was only a few times a month and never for long. Only for as-needed lookups...<br /><br /> But during travel, definitely a plus for some who write that they would miss it.<br /><br /> Offering the free 3G for web lookups, beyond Wiki and Amazon shopping, would never work with the Kindle Touch because with the direct access to links and faster processor, it -would- be used. Bezos probably took all of this into consideration. I don't think of him as generous so much as balancing benefits vs costs...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-39542570268054964702012-07-27T18:54:31.991-07:002012-07-27T18:54:31.991-07:00Well, Adam Smith knew it in the 1700's with We...Well, Adam Smith knew it in the 1700's with Wealth of Nations. If consumption is not constrained by cost, then consumption will grow. And grow. When the iPad was first introduced, they had an unlimited data plan for a reasonable price. I recall wondering how long they thought they would be able to do that. Turns out it wasn't long. At work, for years our accounting department would run an accounting report each month that ran 2 million lines and 20 boxes of paper. This was printed in our central data facility, which was centrally funded. We begged them to do everything on cdrom, and even set up a system and workflow for them to do it. The problem was, they didn't see how it would benefit them, and continued to demand the paper report. Until the day we did away with centralized printing, and the departments had to provide for their own printing. Almost overnight they switched to digital format. I find Amazon's data policies very generous, and unsustainable. Perhaps Jeff Bezos should have taken a lesson from The Prince and been a bit more Machiavellian about it. Had he never offered free wireless, no one would have been surprised. But if he has to now take it away, some will be shocked.Blackbeardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-45599732902792205902012-07-26T20:21:19.863-07:002012-07-26T20:21:19.863-07:00Gary, Yes, I think I might need to update my mobiw...Gary, Yes, I think I might need to update my mobiweb file (that I mentioned in the blog article) for this much-faster version:<br /> <a href="http://bit.ly/gmailbasichtml" rel="nofollow">bit.ly/gmailbasichtml</a>.<br /><br />The Kindle doesn't need input of the "http://" portion as it puts it in for us. Let me know if this works better for you. To get the font larger, do it in landscape mode.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-91441948928349980702012-07-26T20:15:59.368-07:002012-07-26T20:15:59.368-07:00Speaking of browsing the web on my Kindle Keyboard...Speaking of browsing the web on my Kindle Keyboard, does anyone have a particularly good link for reading their GMail? It kicks me over to a page that the font and layout is just smaller, fancier (i.e. slower) and it's just annoying. I just want a more basic plain way to check my mail occasionally (and have the font a little bigger).<br /><br />And speaking of using their data, I'm not doing it to save data on my phone (my phone has probably pulled it down to my phone using the data already), I just want to be able to easily read it while outside.Gary LaPointehttp://garysaid.com/noreply@blogger.com