tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post2562321571623648710..comments2024-03-18T22:39:50.137-07:00Comments on A Kindle World blog: 3G and WiFi-Only Kindle 3's - What does it all mean? Which should I get?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-75015065184892517082011-08-20T19:42:11.268-07:002011-08-20T19:42:11.268-07:00Let me know whether this format is easier to comme...Let me know whether this format is easier to comment with or you prefer the one that shows the comment box below the blog article.<br /><br /> The reason I'm trying this is that Google has more problems authenticating posters the other way. Thanks for any feedback.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-7206445538295646842011-08-20T19:38:37.718-07:002011-08-20T19:38:37.718-07:00Anonymous,
If your friend just stored them on yo...Anonymous,<br /> If your friend just stored them on your laptop just using a USB cable and they're Amazon-purchased Kindle books, they'll have a form of 'DRM' or digital-rights-management on them (a field with a key that specifies ownership) unless a publisher like O'Reilly said they do not want DRM applied -- but most publishers do. Normally that would mean you could not read their Kindle books via your own Kindle account's Kindle-for-pc app.<br /><br /> When you downloaded Kindle for PC (and therefore registered at Amazon with an Amazon user name etc.) AND were able to read the books, that would indicate they were not likely Amazon purchases to the person's account because they'd not be just readable by a Kindle for PC app that you installed under your own Amazon username -- UNLESS your friend had made an account for you specifically and gave you the username and password to use and you were using that account to ID the Kindle for PC during Install. <br /><br /> OR your friend may have just downloaded "mobi" or 'prc' or 'txt' format books from Project Gutenberg, or from Internet Archive, which are free and have no DRM on them (or from any number of <a href="http://bit.ly/kfreelow3" rel="nofollow">free-book sites</a> that allow direct downloads to Kindles) and then had put them (or stored them) on your computer. Those WOULD be readable by the Kindle for PC app.<br /><br /> An Amazon Kindle purchase with DRM (probably 98% of Kindle books) that is meant for one user won't be readable on devices not keyed for that person's specific device(s). <br /><br /> Each time a registered Kindle owner wants to have a book he ordered on one of his other Kindle-compatible devices (another Kindle, an iPhone, iPad or Blackberry etc), he goes to his Kindle management area and chooses which other device should get a copy.<br /><br /> When you purchase a Kindle book, you can read it on up to 5 other Kindle or Kindle-compatible devices. <br /><br /> If you share your own Kindle account with another person, you are the buyer, the other person can be the owner of one of those devices but you pay for the books and they can see your entire library and choose a book and just buy it using your account (and your credit card would be charged). <br /><br />NORMAL Circumstances<br />Once you have a Kindle account with Amazon, you can buy (or download) Kindle books for your free Kindle-for-PC account and read them on that app without having to have a Kindle at all.<br /><br /> If you decide to buy a Kindle later, you'll be able to go into the your Kindle management area and select your new Kindle as another device to receive another copy of that book for reading.<br /><br /> The Kindle for PC app counts as one device. You normally can put your books on up to 6 devices that are registered to your account...<br /><br /> Hope that's not too confusing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-6265778686659008542011-08-20T18:02:52.907-07:002011-08-20T18:02:52.907-07:00A friend stored a bunch of Kindle books on my lapt...A friend stored a bunch of Kindle books on my laptop using USB cable and I downloaded KindleForPC which allows me to read them on the laptop. <br />I plan to buy an Amazon Kindle 3G and wondering if these books will be accessible on the Kindle simply by uploading them over the USB cable or can I expect software blocking since I did not actually purchase them myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-65208530252974190342011-08-10T09:23:30.532-07:002011-08-10T09:23:30.532-07:00Carol,
Sorry I forgot to get to this question earl...Carol,<br />Sorry I forgot to get to this question earlier.<br /><br /> Italy is one of the countries where there apparently is no lower-cost arrangement with the 3G carrier yet. 3G works (for free) if you download a Kindle book from Amazon or if you just go to Wikipedia to look up info. But they haven't enabled free 3G web browsing there.<br /><br /> You can do it with WiFi of course. Since U.S. residents can use their Kindles with 3G in Italy it doesn't seem you have to have the int'l version but they do use a different type of modem access there. There's never a charge for 3G connections if using the web.<br /><br /> The only fee is for mailing your Kindle a document over 3G instead of WiFi and in your case it wouldn't work anyway.<br /><br /> See <a href="http://bit.ly/kwkweb2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kwkweb2</a> to see the list of countries with free 3G web browsing...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-54671601758090845762011-08-09T11:15:05.015-07:002011-08-09T11:15:05.015-07:00If I buy a Kindle 3G from a store eg Best Buy, how...If I buy a Kindle 3G from a store eg Best Buy, how do I know it will work in Europe? Do I have to buy the International model? And will I be charged for 3G connections in the country where I live when I download books? I live in Italy.<br />Thaks.<br />CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-34557334716868442392011-08-09T11:10:41.222-07:002011-08-09T11:10:41.222-07:00If I buy a Kindle 3G in a store eg Best Buy, will ...If I buy a Kindle 3G in a store eg Best Buy, will it work in Europe? I do not live in the USA. Or do I need to purchase the International version? How do I know what the difference is?<br />Thanks.<br />CarolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-61025785686590882382011-05-21T04:22:44.802-07:002011-05-21T04:22:44.802-07:00Rich,
Thanks for the feedback on this article.
...Rich,<br /> Thanks for the feedback on this article.<br /><br /> Glad you're able to read the PDF lists well enough too. I do keep my manuals (mostly PDF) on the Kindle, and it's a Godsend as I always misplace the paper ones.<br /><br /> Re nasty toxins in e-ink display -- I haven't read of any, at least that would reach us. <br /><br /> Thanks for visiting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-36488602107302520462011-05-20T05:07:26.016-07:002011-05-20T05:07:26.016-07:00Good article, clear and accurate. Well done.
Got...Good article, clear and accurate. Well done.<br />Got my kindle specifically for viewing my record and CD collection on the move via PDF's. If they write .mdb reader at some point I'll be very happy.<br />Brilliant for manuals for machines and stuff.<br />The whole system is extremely slick, in your control and I like the way you can choose how to do things ... close to base = free ... fully mobile = nominal charges.<br />Low power usage = better for the planet ... any nasty toxins in the e-ink display?Rich Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07173883797166590157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-45215258989177955002011-02-20T17:28:14.896-08:002011-02-20T17:28:14.896-08:00Does the 3g on the Kindle work in only 3g areas or...Does the 3g on the Kindle work in only 3g areas or does it work in the edge areas.Rasianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-5362187440070643732011-02-17T15:22:01.797-08:002011-02-17T15:22:01.797-08:00Anonymous, from Jan 28 (I missed this one earlier....Anonymous, from Jan 28 (I missed this one earlier.)<br /> No, the 3G kindle can't be used as a modem for laptops.<br /><br />Anonymous from Feb 17,<br /> You'd need to do more than turn the Power off and on. See the steps at <a href="http://bit.ly/krestart" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/krestart</a> to do a reset or restart.<br /><br /> If you have the Amazon leather cover that does NOT have a built-in light, then it may be the cover. Amazon is making refunds on those as some of these cause problems like this.<br />For info on that, see <a href="http://bit.ly/kwkcvr" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kwkcvr</a>.<br /><br />Good luck!<br /><br /> If the above doesn't work, be sure to phone Kindle Support at 866-321-8851 ...<br /><br />Or, if you're not in the U.S., ask for a call-back or give them info at <a href="http://bit.ly/kcall_me" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kcall_me</a>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-46781589016016169882011-02-17T14:04:12.682-08:002011-02-17T14:04:12.682-08:00My kindle 3G crashed and the screen is completely ...My kindle 3G crashed and the screen is completely dark. The power does not change this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-62010870817768626352011-01-28T14:05:50.888-08:002011-01-28T14:05:50.888-08:00can you use your 3G kindle as a modem for laptops?...can you use your 3G kindle as a modem for laptops?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-62954769808336797632011-01-12T05:27:42.643-08:002011-01-12T05:27:42.643-08:00Aadil,
The speed of 3G you get will be limited b...Aadil,<br /> The speed of 3G you get will be limited by the speed used in India. They set a cap on the speed apparently.<br /><br /> I've not seen complaints from those commenting from India though. But it's probably because they are expecting that lower speed.<br /><br /> Good luck on your decision. It's not an easy one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-55604228312639778772011-01-12T04:45:25.998-08:002011-01-12T04:45:25.998-08:00Hi,
I am from india and i am planing of buying Kin...Hi,<br />I am from india and i am planing of buying Kindle with wifi or with 3G and wifi.Amazon provides 3G services in my country,but it is low speed,so can you tell me what speed should i expect while using a 3G enabled kindle?Aadil Brarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06861397657312297780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-25927810030601646362010-12-22T03:11:37.103-08:002010-12-22T03:11:37.103-08:00Chris,
Sorry to be so late in replying. I'v...Chris,<br /> Sorry to be so late in replying. I've not been home much lately.<br /><br /> The only 3G charge is if you have a personal document or book that you downloaded to your computer from somewhere else but for which you now *want to use 3G cellular wireless* to either: <br /> - 1. 'email' that to your Kindle directly <br /><br />*OR* which you now want to <br /><br /> - 2. 'email' to Amazon servers for CONVERSION to Kindle format first and then delivery to your Kindle.<br /><br />(Conversions are done usually for Word docs or for PDFs that you want put into Kindle format with the text re-flowed rather than seen as images of pages which are often too small to read comfortably on a 6" screen.<br /><br /> To have Amazon convert a *PDF* to Kindle-reflowed format, you'd need to put the word "Convert" into the subject field. Otherwise no words are needed for these emails other than the email address.)<br /><br />REMINDER: This is if you want Amazon to send a personal doc (or non-rights-protected book from another source) for you over the 3G cellular network *rather* than via the WiFi you have at home or in the office or nearby at a place that has WiFi (like McDonald's or Starbucks etc).<br /><br />YOUR KINDLE ADDRESS:<br /> As a Kindle 3 owner, you'd be given a Kindle email-address that Amazon has made specifically for your Kindle, and you'd see that Kindle address at your <a href="http://bit.ly/amzn_myk" rel="nofollow">Kindle management page</a> in a box near the top left of that page.<br /><br /> That Kindle address is of course protected from spammers and anyone you don't give specific permission to place documents on your Kindle -- so we don't tend to give out that Kindle address to others.<br /><br /> The Kindle address is in the form:<br /> [you]@kindle.com<br /><br />You need to specify which of your email addresses are approved for sending documents direct to your Kindle via the Amazon servers.<br /><br />You can enter into that box any or all of your email addresses that you want given permission to do that.<br /><br /> If you send a personal document to THAT address, the document will be sent by Amazon servers to your Kindle over the 3G cellular network and, in the U.S., that is 15c per megabyte of a file. Outside the U.S., that's 99c per megabyte of a file.<br /><br />USING KINDLE 3's WIFI INSTEAD:<br /> With a Kindle3 (these models have a WiFi component), you'd normally want to get the document via WiFi (instead of 3G), which is then free to you for the sending of personal documents to Kindle via Amazon servers. <br /><br /> For WiFi sends instead of 3G, you email the document to Amazon serviers for your Kindle address by addressing it instead to <br /><br /> [you]@free.kindle.com<br /><br />Then Amazon will then send an email to your correspondence email address (the one you registered with Amazon) that will include a link to your where you can EITHER <br /> - 1. download it to a computer (if it's a file that has been converted by Amazon for your Kindle) for transfer to your Kindle's "documents" folder via the USB cord<br /><br /> OR<br /><br /> - 2. accept it on your Kindle3 when you are connected to a WiFi network somewhere. If you don't have a WiFi network at home, then #1 above is the way you'd more quickly put it on your Kindle rather than wait until you're near a WiFi network.<br /><br /> With 3G, we are almost always connected, no matter where we are. But the WiFi way to do this is free.<br /><br /> That's the only 'catch' to the 3G service.<br /><br />Re your other question, about streaming mp3's -- no, the Kindle plays only mp3's that are on your Kindle device and under the 'music' folder although you can put mp3's under 'audible' folder instead and that way you can pick and choose to hear the mp3 BUT not be able to read a book at the same time. <br /><br /> If it's in your music folder, as intended, it plays in the order it was placed in the folder and plays *while* you're reading.<br /><br /> But no, the Kindle3 doesn't stream mp3s from the Net.<br /><br />I hope that helps. I may put this into a blog post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-79276956585080463662010-12-20T10:56:50.201-08:002010-12-20T10:56:50.201-08:00I am curious about the 3g feature (I have a 3g in ...I am curious about the 3g feature (I have a 3g in the mail already, but have a concern). I understand that the 3g service is indeed free on this model, but I occasionally see a reference to someone paying a charge for some data transfer. I have been unable to locate exactly what might cause this cost to be incurred. In short, what catches are there to the 3g service? Also, while it would obviously shorten battery life, is it possible to stream audio using this device? This is a feature I would REALLY like to have available. I have heard that there is an "experimental" that can play MP3s and that is dandy, but streaming something would be really nice for me (internet radio). Any information would be greatly appreciated, thanks!Chris Dormadynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-1909363020114141952010-12-17T12:33:45.490-08:002010-12-17T12:33:45.490-08:00Anonymous wrote (and I inadvertently deleted becau...Anonymous wrote (and I inadvertently deleted because I was using the NookColor keyboard which makes it easy to miss the proper spot when choosing a link with the touch-process!) the following:<br /><br />===<br />"Thanks for this blog (and thanks to google for having it on the 1st page!). I am waffling between the wifi & 3g/wifi. You spelled it out well and I will spring for the extra $50.<br /><br />What is not totally clear to me is if the wifi only edition can later be 'upgraded' to 3g but I guess the wifi only model doesn't have the hardware included for 3g. Is that true?"<br />===<br /><br /> Yes, the hardware must be in the unit, and there's no 3G module.<br /><br /> The iPad is the same: their WiFi-only model is $500. To get the iPad that has the 3G module included as well as WiFi, it's an additional $130 for buying that model with the 3G hardware and capability. $50 doesn't look so bad in comparison.<br /><br /> So, no, there's no way to upgrade the WiFi-Only model.<br /><br /> I think it's a hundred times worth it, but that's me. Many of us use the web lookups as needed and it's great to be able to do that from almost anywhere you are without worrying about any monthly data charges.<br /><br /> No waiting until you find a WiFi place. <br /><br />I'm pretty sure you'll have a day when you think "Sure glad I got got that one." :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-32205138492644364012010-12-12T15:22:12.196-08:002010-12-12T15:22:12.196-08:00Anonymous,
They're always enabled - it's...Anonymous,<br /> They're always enabled - it's just that WiFi (costing Amazon nothing, compared to 3G) is always Priority 1 and you can't override that except to "FORGET" the WiFi setting, which means that if you ever want to connect with it again, you then have to put in the passkey again next time.<br /><br /> Exception: When your WiFi is not working (I had neighborhood Comcast maintenance on my home Internet connection the otherday), it then switches to 3G right away.<br /><br /> When the WiFi came back on because Comcast Internet was back, then the Kindle saw that and switched over to WiFi (without asking me for the passkey).<br /><br /> There should be little reason to choose 3G over the faster WiFi in any case...<br /><br /> When you leave your home, the Kindle switches to 3G when you turn it on outside the home and have not connected to another WiFi network somewhere...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-91507527780964723322010-12-12T14:42:04.395-08:002010-12-12T14:42:04.395-08:00Hi,
How do I re-enable the 3G connection on my wi-...Hi,<br />How do I re-enable the 3G connection on my wi-fi/3G version ? in the settings menu I see the wi-fi options only and no way of choosing the 3G connection.<br />Thanks a lot for the answer.<br />TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-62874030575454632432010-12-04T14:58:29.123-08:002010-12-04T14:58:29.123-08:00Michelle,
No problem. Thanks for looking around ...Michelle,<br /> No problem. Thanks for looking around that you did. The two best blog entries to go over for what you need are in the reference column on the right and it's under "Kindle models" and then "Kindle 3" -- specifically <a href="http://bit.ly/kwk3new" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kwk3new</a> (Unsung features) and <a href="http://bit.ly/k3tips" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/k3tips</a> (K3 Tips & Cautions).<br /><br /> When you are near a WiFi network and have made a connection to it (typically at home, in the office), then it takes over and 3G *is* off then -- unless the connection is not strong enough (which I don't think happens too often but you can see the top status line, right to see which kind of wireless is active).<br /><br /> So you're absolutely right except you don't have to turn the 3G off. The Kindle does it automatically while you're near that WiFi setup.<br /><br /> You can send the PDF to [you]@free.kindle.com (instead of the 15c per megabyte [you]@kindle.com) using the correspondence e-mail you use for Amazon.<br /><br /> Amazon would send you an email back with a link to where you can download the file (in case you wanted to USB it to the Kindle's "documents" folder) AND will send a copy direct to your Kindle whenever the WiFi is enabled and you're connected to your WiFi system.<br /><br /> The 'free' means that's the Kindle address that carries no cost and isn't done via 3G.<br /><br /> Have fun ! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-11090581216496452482010-12-04T14:43:43.392-08:002010-12-04T14:43:43.392-08:00I've read through a lot of your blog, but have...I've read through a lot of your blog, but haven't been able to find the answer to this. My apologies if it is somewhere...<br /><br />I'm looking to buy the Kindle "3" 3G model for many of the reasons you outlined. However, I notice it does cost to transfer PDFs via 3G. Is there a way to turn 3G "off" and just use a wireless connection already in my home to avoid the transfer fee? Does the Kindle 3 automatically default to a wireless connection or a 3G connection?michelle mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17376001781005666780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-15268126400212841692010-11-13T13:59:19.399-08:002010-11-13T13:59:19.399-08:00Verity,
If you connected to your WiFi right way,...Verity,<br /> If you connected to your WiFi right way, you won't see any 3G cellular signals as the default is to favor the WiFi.<br /><br /> If you're not hooked up to anything, then go to Menu/Settings and use the Alt key to type '311'<br /><br />Hold down the alt-key and use the uppermost keys which have numbers 1-9 and then '0' for them (hidden) - so that would be pressing 'e' 'e' 'q' to bet '311'...<br /><br /> Choose the cell tower closest to you.<br /><br />Also see <a href="http://bit.ly/kwx11cm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kwx11cm</a>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-50622289310967800692010-11-13T13:38:38.814-08:002010-11-13T13:38:38.814-08:00I bought a 3G Kindle a few days ago. I have yet to...I bought a 3G Kindle a few days ago. I have yet to see a 3G or EDGE or GPRS signal. Either at home, where I have no problem getting cellphone reception on several networks, nor out and about. So I'm not too impressed with that aspect of the Kindle so far...Veritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-66322216368849503872010-10-28T14:23:50.816-07:002010-10-28T14:23:50.816-07:00Anonymous,
These opportunities for conflicts or ...Anonymous,<br /> These opportunities for conflicts or mismatches are a reason I tend to recommend people just pay $50 for the 3G, especially since there are no monthly data charges involved and one can just download almost wherever one happens to be.<br /><br /> Thanks for this report.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-59377884407820912142010-10-28T09:50:17.629-07:002010-10-28T09:50:17.629-07:00Like many others with the new Kindle WiFi only, we...Like many others with the new Kindle WiFi only, we can't connect through our iMac Airport. It does however, connect to the local coffee shop WiFi without any problem, and we can download books. How dumb is that! Lots and lots of people in the same boat, so it appears there's a glitch somewhere in the iMac, although to verify that, you have to pay a fee to have a technician at Apple talk to you. If it's a glitch in the Kindle itself, no one is saying anything at Amazon. In speaking to help at Amazon, they're not able to figure it out, nor can the national phone company do anything since all the criteria for WiFi are in place, and other visiting computers work on our home network.<br /><br />Tearing our hair out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com