tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post8195194275513756687..comments2024-03-18T22:39:50.137-07:00Comments on A Kindle World blog: The Kindle Personal Document Enhancements - How it all works - Update from Customer SvcAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-18500358098101403042014-11-05T02:56:09.795-08:002014-11-05T02:56:09.795-08:00Nancy -- Sorry for the problems from Google's ...Nancy -- Sorry for the problems from Google's blogger.com comment software. Note that in the "NOTE:" below for commenters, the "Technical Problems?" part. That explains how to get past that kind of problem, but it shouldn't even happen.<br /><br />Thanks for trying as you did. I hope things work out for you. You can also post to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/kindleworld.andrys" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/kindleworld.andrys</a> when you have a question or any kind of feedback. I'd like to know how you are doing with this when you have time. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-79793881511444120972014-11-04T06:37:15.998-08:002014-11-04T06:37:15.998-08:00Hi Andrys,
I have left three detailed replies, bu...Hi Andrys,<br /><br />I have left three detailed replies, but this system keeps erasing them and asking me to sign in again, and I don't want to do it again. Thanks for the help.<br /><br />Smiles, NancyNancy Segoviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325011814245166411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-49384712488260620772014-11-03T11:06:41.438-08:002014-11-03T11:06:41.438-08:00Nancy, we all get 5 GB of free Amazon server (or &...Nancy, we all get 5 GB of free Amazon server (or 'Cloud') space in our areas, for personal documents to be stored and to be used by Amazon to collect annotations for these non-Kindle books to sync them with other devices. But Amazon doesn't back up the annotations on personal documents to the kindle.amazon.com highlights page (which apparently is used only for Kindle books).<br /> There are some arduous workarounds. See:<br /><br />1. <a href="http://www.mairacarvalho.com/2013/11/liberating-annotations-in-personal-documents-from-the-kindle/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mairacarvalho.com/2013/11/liberating-annotations-in-personal-documents-from-the-kindle/</a><br /><br />2. <a href="http://hub-mag.co.uk/how-to-automatically-export-kindle-notes-and-highlights-to-trello/" rel="nofollow">http://hub-mag.co.uk/how-to-automatically-export-kindle-notes-and-highlights-to-trello/</a><br /> <br /> The #2 method uses the SHARING (with Twitter) feature rather than highlighting/notes and you'd want to make a private Twitter account to fill with these. Interesting workaround. Also, you'd need Trello (which I've never tried).<br /><br /> Sorry I don't have better news than that...<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-86960970519521363362014-11-02T14:15:41.933-08:002014-11-02T14:15:41.933-08:00Hello Everyone,
Is there anyway at all to copy,...Hello Everyone, <br /><br />Is there anyway at all to copy, paste and a save highlights and notes from a personal document in a from a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 to a Ms Word. doc. I have searched and searched and thought I had found the solution with textclippings.io, but they don't support my Kindle. I have Evernote, but really don't know how to use it very well, and don't know it can be done with it anyway. This is concerning a personal document, not an Amazon e-book.<br /><br />Feeling frustrated.Nancy Segoviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325011814245166411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-25947086295608102292013-05-22T10:47:01.305-07:002013-05-22T10:47:01.305-07:00To Anonymous (Why don't some regulars use at l...To Anonymous (Why don't some regulars use at least a nickname?)<br /> Here's the thing. Amazon did not say 'Read anywhere' using ANY app and immediately. It said they'd make them readable anywhere.<br /><br /> So, as PB says, yes, personal docs must be downloaded first to a device, but the 'promise' doesn't say it always appears out of the air.<br /><br /> On my Kindle Fire, with Amazon's silk browser, if I want a personal document from the Cloud because I no longer have it on my tablet, I can access the Web and 'Manage Your Kindle' -with- that tablet -- and instantly tell it to deliver whatever document I have there, such as a travel itinerary, TO my device. It's there in a few seconds. Then I can read it. And I haven't moved.<br /><br /> What PB describes is true -- first you have to download it (this is not at all painful -- in fact, in the history of computers, when you ask to read something from a website, it IS 'delivered' to you to a temporary area, and you read it from where you are if you want.<br /><br /> But 'anywhere' I have access to WiFi, I can read a document I put in my Amazon archives on the Amazon servers. I just tried it again to make sure it wasn't some arduous experience.<br /> It was a matter of seconds and done before I could exit out of the webpage. <br /><br /> I'm not sure what the point is. As I said, and I'll repeat, as 'fully'-supported, meaning one does not even have to download it first, does not impact that you CAN read it anywhere.<br /><br /> You cannot STREAM it anywhere. So, once more, with regard to the 'promise' not supported:<br />===<br />"I can download from my Amzn cloud immediately any .mobi file I've put on the Cloud and of course can then read it right 'here' and so the read anywhere feature works. Not only that, I can annotate it, and my notes are, with my permission, backed up to my Amzn.server area at kindle.amazon.com where I can browse them or even share them if I want. These .mobi files' last-page-read are also sync'd with my other devices. Try that with any other ebook vendor's hardware or software on non-vendor-store items."<br />===<br /><br /> What PB 'meant' is that you can't read it from the app FROM the Cloud. That was acknowledged the first time I replied -- I said it had to be downloaded first, yes. We agreed on that. The only thing we don't agree on is the that you can't read it where you are (that was the promise) without first turning on your device and having a working fast WiFi connection. In each case, the material must be 'delivered' to you - whether in a stream or as a full file you can read on your device.<br /><br /> I agree it's not 'fully supported' because you do have to get it down in whole rather than streamed a few bits at a time. But there was never (that I remember) a 'promise' that you could just read it without having to 'get' it first, via the WiFi, whether in whole or parts at a time.<br /><br /> My question is: where else is anyone even trying to do anything this flexible and fully-featured as described? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-6090049642933896752013-05-20T04:14:09.035-07:002013-05-20T04:14:09.035-07:00Andrys, if it is a personal document and it was NO...Andrys, if it is a personal document and it was NOT purchased on Amazon.com, you cannot see it in the Kindle Cloud Reader. This is what PB meant.<br /><br />If it is a book bought at Amazon.com, than yes, you are correct, it can be downloaded to any of your devices or viewed through Cloud Reader.<br /><br />This is a big bother for me, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-20433674194062873692012-11-29T15:17:37.558-08:002012-11-29T15:17:37.558-08:00PB
? I am 'here' and I can download from ...PB<br /> ? I am 'here' and I can download from my Amzn cloud immediately any .mobi file I've put on the Cloud and of course can then read it right 'here' and so the read anywhere feature works. Not only that, I can annotate it, and my notes are, with my permission, backed up to my Amzn.server area at kindle.amazon.com where I can browse them or even share them if I want. These .mobi files' last-page-read are also sync'd with my other devices. Try that with any other ebook vendor's hardware or software on non-vendor-store items.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-25859613840750030912012-11-27T22:51:24.571-08:002012-11-27T22:51:24.571-08:00Personal documents are not view-able on the Cloud ...Personal documents are not view-able on the Cloud Reader or on the Windows 8 App. :(<br />Of course documents on the local PC can be viewed in the desktop Kindle for PC.<br /><br />Docs can be uploaded to the Amazon Cloud drive, but they must be downloaded before viewing, not viewed from the cloud. <br /><br />So the read anywhere promise is fully supported only for content purchased from Amazon, not for .mobi files obtained from other sources, and especially not for large .mobi files.PBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064894914609893451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-8582132663517245292011-12-21T11:40:19.800-08:002011-12-21T11:40:19.800-08:00With the new update for Kindle for iPad and iPhone...With the new update for Kindle for iPad and iPhone, people with only kindle app are able to have personal documents to. It means that you are able to ad your own ebooks to personal documents, and have your notes and annotations synced between fx. iPad and iPhone, like you can on Apples iBooks.pro2typehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251192431538293460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-30623161717705495582011-10-19T10:20:01.108-07:002011-10-19T10:20:01.108-07:00Sounds good, Krista, and I'm glad they're ...Sounds good, Krista, and I'm glad they're getting that feedback from you.<br /><br /> I'd add that their default for sends on all but PDFs is to Convert to the Kindle format of course. Rather than have people specify "Convert" on everything (since most people wouldn't even know it was needed), they automatically do it unless it's a PDF and for those you have to specify "Convert" in the subject line.<br /><br /> They want the default to be to Archive personal docs ("enabled") but the exception might be a possibility -- as in<br />"No-Archive" ...<br /><br /> That's essentially the same thing and I hope they hear you (I actually think they'd consider it, because it makes so much sense and it's easier to request an exception instead of enabling and disabling archiving).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-882877967824062862011-10-19T08:31:02.695-07:002011-10-19T08:31:02.695-07:00Andrys,
I hadn't thought of it, but since you...Andrys,<br /><br />I hadn't thought of it, but since you suggested it... I did! Here's what I wrote:<br /><br /><br />I use the personal documents service daily to send long web articles to my Kindle with SENDtoREADER and Instapaper. Since those are just articles that I want to read and delete, I am keeping the archiving feature OFF until I want to archive a real book or document, like books I buy from another website like Baen or Smashwords. I turn it on, archive, then turn it off again.<br /><br />I don't mind having to turn off/on, but I think it would be cool if we could prepend "Archive:" in the subject of the email if we wish it to be archived, otherwise it won't be. This would be similar to the "Format:" feature that Amazon uses to reformat .pdf and .doc files into Kindle format before sending it to our Kindle. That way we can choose the things we intend to archive but not an all or nothing feature.<br /><br />Thanks for listening!<br /><br />KristaKristahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729176843636217726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-91950980826851636652011-10-19T08:24:07.068-07:002011-10-19T08:24:07.068-07:00Krista,
That's a GREAT idea. Hope you and o...Krista,<br /> That's a GREAT idea. Hope you and others are sending it to kindle-feedback@amazon.com !Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-60902791738418431672011-10-19T08:11:05.280-07:002011-10-19T08:11:05.280-07:00Hey Andrys,
I use the personal documents daily fo...Hey Andrys,<br /><br />I use the personal documents daily for SENDtoREADER, Instapaper and KindleRSS. And yes I do keep the archiving feature OFF until I want to archive a real book or document, like books I buy from Baen or Smashwords. I turn it on, archive, then turn it off again.<br /><br />I don't mind having to turn off/on, but (I think someone else mentioned this) I think it would be cool if we could prepend "Archive:" in the subject of the email if we wish it to be archived, otherwise it won't be.<br /><br />KristaKristahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729176843636217726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-12990144260915732792011-10-18T10:20:22.076-07:002011-10-18T10:20:22.076-07:00Tom,
That's a great tip re Clippings file and ...Tom,<br />That's a great tip re Clippings file and I would add a 6-digit-date to mine.<br /><br /> Re uploading it to Personal Documents Archive? Another good idea. I would run it through that professor's macro first (Windows only) to get it sorted by book instead of chronologically. Will try this out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-28717549506637449242011-10-18T09:59:31.572-07:002011-10-18T09:59:31.572-07:00Re performance it can help to back up 'my clip...Re performance it can help to back up 'my clippings' to your computer and then delete it. This file is indexed, too, so every time you create a note/highlight/bookmark, it triggers indexing, and the bigger the file is, the longer it takes. And it seems to take longer just to add new notes etc. as it gets larger. So starting fresh may help.<br /><br />An interesting application of Personal Documents would be to send a snapshot of My Clippings (e.g. name it 'kindle3 clippings 15Oc52011.txt') to your Kindle email address for archiving and reference. That way you could still keep all notes you've ever made on your kindle without impacting performance.<br /><br />It's not clear whether kindle.amazon.com will at some point include Personal Documents highlights. So it will be more important to backup My Clippings periodically if you make annotations to PDs. Otherwise the only access you'll have is by opening the book and viewing them there.Tom Semplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05127272649086914117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-87830042349852967222011-10-18T03:29:56.149-07:002011-10-18T03:29:56.149-07:00Peter,
You're missing only seeing the commen...Peter,<br /> You're missing only seeing the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=872447660964013545&postID=8195194275513756687" rel="nofollow">comments to the latest software update</a> which had a few siilar reactions from some of us DX owners. But I think the may come. On the other hand, I can be overly optimistic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-76445892050128407562011-10-18T03:20:06.814-07:002011-10-18T03:20:06.814-07:00And what about my latest generation DX. I see any ...And what about my latest generation DX. I see any software update coming !?<br /><br />Choosing a DX instead of a Kindle3 seems a bad choice as DX doesn't seems to be updated along with the rest...<br /><br />or am I missing somethingPeternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-52020773061946643932011-10-18T00:15:50.790-07:002011-10-18T00:15:50.790-07:00This new feature is great. And when Amazon will en...This new feature is great. And when Amazon will enable sync'ing for Kindle Apps that will be even nicer.<br /><br />Things I wait/hope for:<br /><br />1. Personal docs sync'ing for Kindle Apps.<br />2. Sending a personal document to Amazon directly from Kindle or a Kindle App.<br />3. Specifying a keyword in the email title to switch between storing in the cloud or only converting and sending back to Kindle (just like "convert" for PDFs).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05724717613575721151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-35429560895272656152011-10-17T13:01:15.431-07:002011-10-17T13:01:15.431-07:00ony,
Every single book is indexed for keywords. Th...ony,<br />Every single book is indexed for keywords. There is a way to re-do the index that can take hours to a day and then performance is better (it's not defragging, which is not recommended)).<br /><br />When you load the home page, an array of all the titles is loaded into memory so it's easy to jump to anywhere in the long list of titles to get to, say, the titles starting with 'M' if you press 'm' and then click the 5-way (when sorting by 'title' ...<br /><br />I suspect a lot is not released from memory to ensure that they can be readily accessed later. The 'Back' button works going way back in a session, so the session history is being kept so that people can go back to older points.<br /><br />I've seen responses from Kindle Team on the forums that indicate there is a performance hit when there are tons of books on a Kindle, and they've recommended that if you want speedier access you shouldn't fill the space with books.<br /><br />I haven't studied it, but I've experienced it :-) But I like to carry encyclopedias around, so, lots of keywords.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-85490988505783065502011-10-17T11:36:58.556-07:002011-10-17T11:36:58.556-07:00Andrys,
In your analysis, you mention the followi...Andrys,<br /><br />In your analysis, you mention the following: "Kindles are able to store anywhere from 1.5 to 3.2 gigabytes of books, but you can keep most of it on the Kindle Cloud and the performance/speed of your Kindle will be better."<br /><br />This is the first reference I recall seeing that declares there is a relationship between Kindle speed/performance and amount of content.<br /><br />I've had the feeling for awhile that my Kindle is getting slower and I wondered if this might be the case.<br /><br />Can you point to any information or studies that quantify this phenomenon? <br /><br />Thank you.Tony Robertshttp://www.editorialservice.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-33500340568563485472011-10-17T11:14:59.324-07:002011-10-17T11:14:59.324-07:00Timothy,
Thanks for the info on Instapaper and R...Timothy,<br /> Thanks for the info on Instapaper and Readability. Maybe you could 'enable' archiving ONLY when you purposefully send yourself personal docs/books?<br /><br /> I agree re the Proj Gutenberg books. <br /><br /> Re USB transferred docs, I did try to make that clear. These new features are only for files you intentionally send to Amazon.<br /><br /> They're not going to sift through our files and just take them up to the service. <br /><br /> There'd be an outcry. And, to sync your files they have to have a copy on their servers. This way they ignore what you maybe decide is private.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-80149070513455177092011-10-17T11:06:21.329-07:002011-10-17T11:06:21.329-07:00In response to your question about how the new cha...In response to your question about how the new changes to the Kindle personal document service handles documents from send-to-kindle services such as Instapaper or Readability, such files are indeed archived. That could become a little annoying, considering how often I use such a service to send web articles to my kindle to read. With the myriad uses people have come up with for the Service, Amazon will probably have to add some sort of filtering options to control what is and isn't archived. But even if they don't it is still worth it to have archiving and Whispersync on all my Project Gutenberg books.<br /><br />Also, is the archiving service meant to work with files transferred over USB or is it just for documents sent via email? The former did not seem to work in my test. I won't mind it much if it isn't as that is just one more reason to use email rather than USB to send documents. But if it did work on files transferred over USB then that would mean Amazon can upload files directly from the kindle. Which idea I like as I was hoping this whole thing would be recursive and I would not have to resend and reorganize every personal document that I want archived.Timothy Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-14365301171685805212011-10-17T10:31:33.609-07:002011-10-17T10:31:33.609-07:00Joe,
Thanks for letting me know it helps.
I...Joe,<br /> Thanks for letting me know it helps. <br /> I did find a page that specifically said that there were no charges for sending by WiFi though I lost the page (I kept losing my place because there are so many variations on each page (!). It was dizzying.<br /><br /> I did send feedback to Amazon that they need to make this all clearer. It took a really long time to put together.<br /><br /> I agree it's an excellent feature. <br /><br /> PDF conversion is free, yes.<br /><br /> I usually keep the original on the Kindle so I can check the layout of diagrams etc. but I like getting a converted copy because I then get all the Kindle features on it and the fonts are bigger :-)<br /><br /> That works mainly on less complex pdfs of course.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872447660964013545.post-19557502792545000312011-10-17T10:15:40.312-07:002011-10-17T10:15:40.312-07:00Thanks for this post, Andrys! I spent over half an...Thanks for this post, Andrys! I spent over half an hour this weekend trying to determine in what ways Amazon might or might not charge for this service and what it will do. It seemed like what you're saying is correct, but I didn't feel confident due to some mildly confusing and contradictory language on the Amazon site. I even started a thread about it on the Amazon Kindle community called "Cost of New Personal Documents Storage Service?" and the people who replied weren't real clear either after the recent changes.<br /><br />If your interpretation is correct, this is an awesome service and a huge differentiation from the competition, if Amazon can figure out how to communicate it clearly. A personal documents syncing service with advanced features bookmarking and note-taking feature?<br /><br />Another point I'm not clear on: Is PDF conversion free (if 3G is not used)?Joe Golton (FilterJoe)http://www.filterjoe.comnoreply@blogger.com